SPEAKER_00 0:02

Are you a hoarder though? I'm a maximalist. Look at my wall. Look at my wall. So TJ Maxx just got you. Like TJ Maxx slogan. I'm a Maximista. Yeah, you're a Maximista. But just like, yes, in um, I just like, yeah. I'm not. How many? How many clothes do you have? Um, too many. Yes. Too many that I don't wear is the problem. Like I wear the same same five outfits. We were just talking about this, some of my friends, where I was like, I want to be more fashionable. I wear the same five things and it's black or it's green, or this one blue shirt that I have. Like, it's just not good.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Hello, and welcome back to Ilse Will Say, the place where we do interventions.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

That's not what I was told. Welcome to my brain. I'm Ilsa, your host. Currently trying to convince Emma to get rid of all of her possessions. All of my earthly possessions and my electronic ones. And today we're joined with Emma Boyd, and she has done so much.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

She's on Chicago Paddy, Call of Duty stunt. She was a stunt double for a nun at some point, apparently. Uh doing a Hello Woman show at the ARC Theater, uh, Michigan BFA, Second City Conservatory. I mean, it goes on and on and on. And she said she doesn't have anything to promote. And then I reminded her she's doing a lot. So please welcome my friend Emma Pilot.

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Hello!

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Emma Joe Boyd.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

She's that bad! Hello. Oh my god. Wow. You have a big crowd. I did not know that this was recorded live with an audience. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Stodger Stadium. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Love it. Love it.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Um, okay, stunt double for a nun? Is that yes, you were pulling some deep cuts on that.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Um, I that was an indie movie last year that a friend of mine was working on, and he was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should come double this woman. And then the woman I was doubling ended up being a woman I had been in a play with, my very first professional gig ever. I had understudied her.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Really?

SPEAKER_00 2:28

Uh, and then I was her stunt double, and it was this I have not seen the movie, but it was one of the harder stunts I've had to do. It's a comedy, and we were these two nuns are like not actually nuns, spoiler, but they're stealing, they're stealing like this very large coffin on children's bike.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

That's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

And so I had to wear like a full nun like to the ground outfit and then ride this children's bike while carrying a 50-pound like thing with this other stunt woman. And it was it was so ridiculous. Thank God it was a comedy because we never once successfully did it. They also like it's an indie, so they didn't roll like they didn't lock down the street.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

And so cars were like coming at us. And they're like what the car is parked on the side were like not production cars. So like if we if we fell or like veered, we were just denting people's cars. We I mean we didn't hit anyone's cars, but like the risk allegedly. The risk was like we didn't, it's on footage. Um, but it was truly insane. Uh it was super fun. Yeah. I mean Okay, good, good. Yeah, big deal.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

So it's funny because my first sag job was remember when they were filming The Exorcist in Chicago? Yes. I was one of the chanting nuns.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

And I I thought I thought we all know nun in us. We all have a secret nun. I was like, I don't know if I believe that.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

What if Emma was like, because during The Exorcist, like they have a lot of stunt people too, because the nuns have to go flying. And and I was what if Emma Emma one of the nuns?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Oh my god, I wish. No, it was not, it was not the exorcist. No, that's the one I played a nun in my like early community theater days, and I was like a singing nun in the background of the sound of music. Uh in this thing called Broadway Bits, where we did bits of different Broadway shows and it it was because they didn't want to pay for the rights, I think. Which was so funny. But I had a crush on a boy that was also in the show, and I like was like, I'm gonna be the sexy nun. And so I like had my little nun thing zipped down a little bit. Stumped a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

And this is why you're a star.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

I'm a star. I was like, I can't just be contained in this this robe, like it's all it's all about my 13-year-old cleavage.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Yeah, you knew from my behalf because I had none, and I would wear no, I would wear like the little cups that you put inside the bra so that it looked because like so you had more. Yes, because I mean I went to school with like predominantly Latina women, and so all of them like just like one summer, just all of them got boobs, except for me. Yeah, I know. You're like, know me too. Yeah, yeah. I remember playing basketball.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

I don't and I Sporty Sporty's I uh I had and I had the little cups inside my sports pub, and one of them fell fell out. No, they don't need to know, they already know our secrets.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

Okay, but that's we don't have to we have to we have to go back, Emma. And you need to tell us a little bit about your story. So you grew up in Reno? Where are you from? Reno, Michigan, Chicago. Like a well condensed version of of your life and what you do.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

Okay, and go. Uh I was born in Reno, Nevada. I grew up there. The poor man's Vegas. Oh, the biggest little city in the world. Yeah, Reno is a bizarre place. It's uh it's just weird. Like we I was doing dance recitals as a kid in the casino. So we would like walk through the little like casino to the dressing room and we would share a dressing room with the like ring girls that were doing like the fight.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

So like Heather would be putting on her spark girls I thought like the ring.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Oh my god, you're just we're going, you're like, oh, these are scary girls. No, no, no, like like in a fight, like there'd be fights. Yeah, whole and like the girls that were like round one, we're not it. Like they're putting on their gold bikinis and their like body glitter, and we're like putting on our rosy chicks. I'm no, I'm like not and then like have a good show, have a and then I like go be a little nutcracker or a mouse or whatever. Oh my gosh. It was bizarre, but that was just like, yeah, we're like we we have a show, so it's at the casino. Reno, it's the city of dreams.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Okay, so that then you went to Michigan.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

Yes, then I went to the University of Michigan in our in Ann Arbor.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

You seem like a Michigan gal.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Like I a lot of people think I'm from there. Yeah. I yeah. I think I've been in the Midwest long enough now that it has really rubbed off on me. So I I I believe that and I and I take that lovingly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

I think I think you should. And then from there, Chicago.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

From there, Chicago.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

And that was just it? Why Chicago and not like New York or LA?

SPEAKER_00 7:13

A great question. I showcased in all three cities with my I got like a BFA at Michigan, and so our senior year we did the the whole like you know, showcase circuit. And I was really convinced I was gonna move to New York. And in New York, I got zero bites on my showcase. And then in LA, I got this manager that was like, she was like, I make stars, and you're a star. All you have to do is lose 20 pounds, dye your hair red, wear lower cut short shirts, and more makeup. And I was like, wow, that's an interesting thought. And then I showcased here in Chicago and I met the folks at Stuart Talent, and they called me like a few days later and they said, you know, we don't even think you're thinking about moving here, but we love you and we'd love to work with you in some capacity. I mean, it was lovely. It was lovely, and it felt like a better, a better fit just in violent.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

I don't want to be a redhead with cleavage to your body.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

I don't want my birds on a redhead. Um, yeah, it was like, huh. I mean, it was bizarre. Yeah, the whole and LA had not been on my radar. Uh, it's more on my radar now. Like, I don't know that Chicago's forever, but certainly like coming out of undergrad, uh, trying to start in the industry, I was like, that LA vibe didn't that didn't feel right. Like the folks at Stuart felt like like they were moms and dads and sisters. Like, I just felt like they were looking at me as a whole person as opposed to like if we change all these things about you, then you'll be great.

SPEAKER_01 8:40

Yeah. And I'm like, ooh, that hurts. How did you get into boxing and stunts and all of that?

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yeah, good.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Is that the Nevada coming out?

SPEAKER_00 8:49

I know. I'm like, is it no? I mean, I played tons of sports growing up. I was always like a sporty kid and had done bits of martial arts, not a ton of that when I was young, but then in college, I wanted to do a lot of stage combat. And the teacher told me that our like professor of combat was like, you should do real fighting to understand the fake fighting. And I was like, Oh, that's a good idea. So I started training with this. I was like, no, let me go, let me just go fucking beat some people up. Yeah. Um, but truly, I like started training with this like MMA guy in Ann Arbor, Michigan, um, whose name was Doc, because his name in the ring was like the Doctor or something. Um I loved it. I really I loved it. I know it was great. Yeah, but I trained with him for a long time, really loved it. And then when I moved when I was moving to Chicago, he was like, Well, my buddies run a gym out there. Literally, walk in, say my name, and they're gonna hire you. And I was like, what an interesting proposition. I wonder if this will work. And then got cast in an MMA movie where they paid for my training for a long time. So which was great. And then when the movie wrapped, I was like, Goodbye, MMA fighters that I've been training with. Like, it's been nice knowing you. And they were like, No, no, you're hired, you work here now. And I was like, Oh, oh, that's cool, which is great. So now I coach at the gym that I trained at, uh, and I help with some like admin stuff, and you know, I just hang out with them. But they're great.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

They're great, I love it, and so it's one of those things where it's like I definitely do it for for fun. Like they always talk about like, well, we gotta get her in the ring, we gotta like get her a fight. And I'm like, no, no, I don't actually like want to do it for real. Um that's too scary. That's too scary for me.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah, I I feel similarly. I did I I I started boxing for my One Woman show. It was very I remember I remember that. Yes, it was very brief. Yeah, yeah, great. But I never had the the the want, the need, the drive to hit another person. Like I just didn't let's not I love hitting an anatomant object as hard as I can. So fun, incredible. Or sparring, great. I know that I'm hitting like a mat on their hands, and you know, if everybody's safe and and happy. Yeah, actually hitting another person.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

I'm like, ugh now that I think about it, I did get kicked out of a haunted house once for punching a performer.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Okay, this is why I don't go to haunted houses. Not for yeah, like because I am afraid that I will hurt somebody. I was escorted out. Had you already started doing like the MMA fighting training?

SPEAKER_00 11:17

At that point, yes. At that point I had started, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

See, yeah, you would, you would, yeah. I would.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

You would I would be I would be scared and I would feel bad.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

No, of course, of course. I feel bad too, but also like don't jump scare people.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

But don't jump scare me, which I understand that I went into a haunted house, so that was my own fault. Um yeah, I don't do that anymore. I've had to stop. I literally yesterday started writing a stand-up act.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

You gotta do it. No, every woman has to do it. There are too many dudes out there that think they're funny and they're not. And honestly, don't be too prepared. You're already a very prepared person. I can I don't I know this. You're overpreped. Don't overprepare. Don't memorize, it's not a monologue. Don't memorize- I know, I know, I know, I know. I learned that the hard way. Don't memorize, it's not a monologue. Go up there and then just just talk. Dude, can you imagine if you talked about being a nine-year-old at a casino? Come on. I mean, that's the thing. There is so much material.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

I don't know. There's so much material there.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Yeah. Plus, you did a one-woman show, didn't you? Oh, I did. I mean, but it was it was like that was someone else's script. I remember. Oh, gosh. It was that it was not my one woman show. Oh, fuck. Yeah. That was also that was like real, that's a real deep cut. That was like uh, I think my first few months in the way. Yeah, I don't know where that's listed, but yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 12:37

I do some sleuthing, man. Being like uh an overly horny high schooler who like sleuths on Facebook has really come in. Because like now I'm just so good at sleuthing. I'm like so I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

I'm not my boyfriend makes fun of me. He was like, What do you mean you didn't Google me? And I was like, You didn't Google him? I didn't go, I still haven't. I'm like, should I? Yeah. What why?

SPEAKER_01 13:01

I mean you don't have to. I mean, now you're together for six months, but like at the beginning.

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Yeah, I think I know most things. I mean, at the beginning. Yeah, no, I I really didn't.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Oh, see, I really didn't. One of my uncle It's not my instinct. My uncle was in the SWAT team and like growing up and like a sheriff. So like I just know to like Google people before I meet them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

It's it's the Michigan. You've you've you've you've become too much of a Midwesterner.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

Well, totally, my mom, my mom was like, so Emma, you have this lovely thing about you, but it will also ruin your life and be your curse forever. Please mom. You just take people at their word. And I'm like, I do. I do. I'm like, you tell me that you're not gonna kill me? Great. Great, perfect. I believe you.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

You have a chainsaw with you, and you still I believe you. I'm like, he said though, you guys, he said that he wasn't gonna.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

And he said it.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Again, again, please do stand up. Please write a scary movie with this premise.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Please, I would love to cry. That would be a fun scary movie. That would be so funny. That would be fun. Maybe it would be funny. That would be really, really funny.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Alright, what else is funny is hot cakes. They're like hot takes, but they stack up. Are you ready? 60 seconds on the clock. Oh, good. Best Chicago snack after a show.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Um, well, I just had Bartles B ice cream. Locally owned, woman-owned, of choice.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

I fist. Worst costume you've ever worn.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Uh worst costume I've ever worn. I don't think I have a worst. I have a best, which is a homemade ham sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

I love that. Is Drury Lane haunted? Yes. Go-to Call of Duty character to play.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Um, none of them I don't play, I just make it.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Craziest stunt you've said yes to.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Uh, full body fireburn.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

Best fake blood flavor. Uh chocolate, chocolate zero. The coolest person you've fought on stage. My demon. Woo! Spookiest Chicago theater. Um, the greenhouse. Would you rather fight a ghost or haunt a stunt? Uh uh. Fight a ghost? Was the person fight a ghost? Fight a ghost or haunt a nun.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Haunt a nun.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Yeah, I would think so. Okay, uh, thank you so much for playing. What the hell did you say craziest stunt you've said yes to was? I like my f-full body fire burger. Are you fucking kidding me? No, what the hell is that?

SPEAKER_00 15:36

What the hell is that? Stop. That is having your whole body lit on fire. You kidding me? You said yes to that? You've been on fire. I've been on fire multiple times. What? Okay. It causes people a lot of distress in my life. So I don't tell them until it's done. Oh my god, what do you do with for your hair? Um, so the way we do it, I've always done it like with the same company as a drag. Full body. Full body. Full body.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Like, like so that's like not just like the arm, then you have to like. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Like my whole, like my wrapped around my legs, up my back, wrapped around my arm.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

What I would you're as if I were your mother. Oh, I know. It's upsetting. I would drag you the fuck back to Reno. You're not leaving Reno.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

My mom has my location, and every now and then, if she sees I'm like in the woods somewhere, she's like, What's going on? What are you doing? And I'm like, oops, I'm on Do Not Disturb. Oops, I'm so sorry. And then I send a video and I'm like, I did it! And she's like, Oh god. Oh my god. Okay, so tell me fire. So what it's great. It's the company I work with, um, Sweet Spot of the Flame, plugged to them, um, run by my dear friend Greg Poljasic and a few other wonderful folks. Um, they have a whole system. You're wearing so many layers with like fireproof, it's essentially like clothes that are soaked in lube. It's like a special recipe of lube, but it's essentially lube. And you are wearing like so many wet layers and then dry layers, and then the thing that's lit on fire is on top of all of those. So I'm wearing like men's extra large jeans and jacket, and then they paint fuel wherever they want the fire to go. So like they'll paint my legs and up around my back and my arms, and that's what gets lit. But my hair is like I'm in a cap and my hair is soaked in the like lube stuff as well, and I have a hat on top of that, and then you just like move, and when you do, you have to hold your breath because you can't protect your insides from fire. So you can only be on fire for the length that you can hold your breath, and then when you're done, you just lay flat and the safety team like spray you. So your hair is fine. The risk is that you can burn off your eyelashes. I never have. Never have. Really glad, really scared about that.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

I am just in complete shock.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I and what about your face? Do you put lube on your face?

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, there's like you're like, yes, and there's a special like extra thick one that they put on your face that like sits. I have some picture I can send you where you can like see how thick it is.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Okay, so how long can you hold your breath for?

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Not very long. I have asthma. I have adult asthma.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

But I also think of course Emma.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

Yeah. I shouldn't be doing this.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Your mother and I should have a conversation. I know. I like take a pump of inhabitants. now. And you won't do stand-up? Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_00 18:09

No, God! Are you kidding me? Stop. I know. What if they let me on fire? Maybe then I could do it. Yeah, maybe. Is there something there? I think there's something there. Oh no. And then you're like trying to cut everything out in order. I can do it, but I can't. I can't do it like a legend. Yeah. I think that's gold. I'll write it now.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Okay, so we get a little weird here. Do you believe do you have any ghost stories, any woo-woo? What's the weirdest thing you believe in? What's going on in that brain of yours?

SPEAKER_00 19:00

I am a little I have a little touch of the woo-woo. Um, and it really started. I mean, it's always kind of been there, but it started this summer. I was working on this, I was on the stunt team for a movie. That's good. Which means it was about a women's bicycle race, so it was like a women's stunt team, go women.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

This is not the nun thing.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

No, this was called little fire. It's a different bicycle thing. Yeah, I I guess I do bicycle stunts. That's my thing.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Um, you ever been lit on fire on a bicycle?

SPEAKER_00 19:26

No, but I should. I should. God, that's actually such a good idea. I'm gonna call Greg after this. I'm gonna ask him. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my reel is just me on bikes.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Um and on fire.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

And on fire. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Um, but so we were all these women, we were spending these long, long days, like sweaty, biking in like the middle of summer in Indiana, biking, biking, biking. And so we were like losing our minds a little bit, and I started creating these like manifestations where I was like, okay, picture this. We're gonna get back to our hotel, they're gonna be like, surprise, you're actually being moved to a much nicer hotel, and you're gonna have like a whole spa day, and you're we're gonna get three days off in a row, and like was manifesting all these things, and I would be like, think about it, think about it, think about it. And then I would end it and be like, or they're gonna make us stay late and we're not gonna get paid this week. And like the bad thing would always be the thing that happened. And so then the girls started being like, Emma, you have something magic and you're fucking us over. Like, you have to stop saying things. So I was banned from saying things because I had too much power. So there I don't know what it means, but it was like a little woo-woo thing where the girls were like, Emma has magic powers, and like one time a good thing happened because I was like, Oh my god, we really need ice cream. Like, it's so hot. I really hope that they bring ice cream to set. And the next day, ice cream was delivered, and all the girls were like, How did she do it?

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Yeah, I don't know how I did it. So, when you would say the good and the bad, the bad thing would happen. Did you ever get a spa day in three days off? No, because you said the bad thing after.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

The bad thing, yeah. We like ended up saying late that night or something. Yeah, yeah, it was like it was always the bad thing. Yeah, it would be like it would be like Have you tried just saying the good thing? Just saying the good thing and ending it there. I that's probably a good idea. Um I mean, we have to have some tests.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

I should test tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Although, like, it's been popping up in my life here now that I'm back in Chicago, like, but in dumb ways. Like, we'll be playing. My boyfriend and I do like a roll for. Do you know what a roll for is? No, it's like a DD thing, but we've made it to make like ninja creamy ice cream, if you're familiar with that.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

I am so lost.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

There are so many words, yeah. So, like DD is like you roll for to determine, like you roll these multi-sided dice to determine something. So we made multiple lists about like how to make our ice cream, our like protein ice cream.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

So we like roll for the milk, and then we're protein ice cream? It's protein ice cream. Sha off. But it's good. You fit people get away.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

I'm so sorry. But I do eat ice cream every day because of the ninja creamy ice cream maker. But literally, we like roll for our milk, we roll for our like the protein powder, we roll for the jello mix in, like, we roll for all the different things, and it makes like all these weird combos because you're the dice tell you. And I really wanted something to happen, and I was like, that dice better say six on it. And then it did, and we were like, Magic! Which is like not real, it's just chance. But I mean my magic might be a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

I think I think maybe you should start walking around saying, like, I have a million dollars.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

I did I did start trying to do that once I saw the magic working, and that so far has not come true. But maybe it's on its way. It's in the works.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

We gotta stay positive. We gotta stay positive. Yeah. I think what I've learned from you is that we gotta stay positive. Um yeah, I've I've started saying things out loud too. Like I I have been encouraged by folks to start talking to myself. Like, yeah, when I'm by myself because around people, it's weird. Um go for it. Um but I I do I'm like, oh, the manifesting thing. And I have a theory on manifesting, and I think I've said this on the podcast before. Where it's not that you say it and it happens, it's that it's said out loud, and because it is said out loud, there is some sort of like um weight to it, and therefore there are actions then that are taken either by the person that heard it or by oneself that like naturally move towards that thing that was said. So I think it's more of a ripple effect of like dropping a uh like a drop in like the ocean, where like then the waves start happening, and maybe subconsciously we start taking those actions that then create those opportunities for us to take.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

I love that. Right? I love that. That's great. My mom, my mom is very woo-woo, and she would be very aligned with this. She talks about like you're creating motion in the universe, like you're creating, you're shaking it up.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

I'm like, yes. Like I told my friend, I was like, I want to do stand-up, and she was like, Well, do one small action. And what I did is I looked at the comedy like uh places around here, and I just put it in my calendar, open mic, and I said, I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna go, yeah. I'm just gonna go. And then the host pissed me the fuck off. And because he was like, How I like I was just accosted. I was just like, he was like, How many open mics have you done from like the stage to to like the audience? And I was like, Zero. And he like gave me shit for it, and I was like, you know what? I'm fucking signing up, and I signed up and I did it, and I killed, and he was like, You're pretty funny. And I'm like, Yeah, I am.

SPEAKER_00 24:29

Yeah, so I'm saying I'm glad you got him. It was cool. Down with him.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

It was amazing, it was amazing, it was the best feeling ever. But that's what I'm thinking, like that's I think how manifesting actually works. Where like you say it, there's weight to it, and then there's just like little little tinkering, little things. Like maybe you said I want ice cream, and then a PA overheard you and was like you know what? Totally that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Wait, because it's like we were in a van, we were being transferred, like there were so many people around, like it absolutely worked.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Yeah, that's how I think it it happens. So um, let's let's start saying a million dollars. And if and if you get it, I'll just get a cut. Uh that's I did I remember signing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um you agree to be on the podcast, I just get a cut.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Yeah, I signed my life. I signed my millions away. Yeah. Not millions.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

I only take 10%. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Of my million.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

My first million.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Of your first million. Um we'll negotiate that.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Okay. Okay, yeah. Off air. Off air, I get it. I see what you're up to.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Um, any other woo?

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Any ghost stories or anything that's trying to think. I mean, I definitely uh am respectful of the spirits and terrified of them. Um, yeah. My first the my childhood home, the one that I remember, we were that like it was our second, but I don't remember that one. I was an infant. Um, a person was nearly murdered in the home and like crawled. While you while you lived there. No, no, no, no, like before. Uh it was like a lover's quarrel, and one of them was was beaten. It might have been two men, I can't remember. But one of them crawled out um like on their hands and knees in pain, and I think died in the street. Um, and so I was convinced.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

And your parents were like, we are gonna They're like, that's our house.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, it does sound like a sort of insidious now that I say that. I hope yeah, I hope they got a deal. Fine. I think we did. The walls were also all painted black, and then when we renovated, there was stuff in the walls, like trinkets. And I kept I feel really weird saying it now. That's where my magic comes in. Maybe I'm a demon. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 26:38

No, no, you were too nice and kind to be a demon. That's how they get you. Um, what uh I love that.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Um and so you were convinced that it was it was haunted? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I'd be like home alone, and our bathroom had like a weird amount of mirrors on like different walls. And they didn't take them down? No, I think my mom like added them because it was like it was like a two-sided bathroom, because it was for my both of my brothers and I. So it was like the boys had one sink and I had one sink. Ah, okay. And it was tight. So they put we each had mirrors, but they faced each other, so it created this like endless reflection. And then the little medicine cabinets were old school and had mirrors on them. So if you opened it, there would be more reflections, and there was always a ghost somewhere in there.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Yeah, always. Yeah. Yes. Did you ever see it?

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Like, and then and then you're like, I felt that I did, but I also was like very dramatic. Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

I think that's what they tell women. Um, you're just dramatic.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

It's like, no, how about it's shit, just it's just actually as scary. It was my demon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

And now it's in you.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

I do feel a little concerned about that. I've never said all of those things in the same sentence, and now I'm like, uh-oh. This is why I love the podcast. It's I'm upset and I might need an exorcism. Can you help? You were in the movie.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yeah, we were in the movie. Um, I I think I still remember some of the Latin that I had to chant. Perfect. I'm sure that will help.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

Or it will trigger and I'll be like a sleeper agent demon.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

And maybe it'll help with your hoarding. Maybe that's just what it's. How did we get back to that? Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Maybe that's the demon. Maybe that's I'm like trying to protect myself. I'm gathering from my lifetime living in the crypt. I don't know where demons are from. I don't know. I'm really worried. This is bad. No, you are good.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

You are one of the shiniest lights out there. Uh truly, you are you are a little ray of sunshine.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Oh yeah, and and anybody who goes on through social media or anything, like you're just always a ball of light. So I don't think there could any could be anything wrong with you. Um or any demons, demon rings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, thank you. And if they're they're like tiny and you can just like little. Yeah, they just like tinkering. Um so tell me about this bot batsy.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

Batsy, Batsy, yes, the pronunciation. It's spelled like Yahtzee, but not pronounced like it. Please don't sue us. Um I um I allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly, you didn't hear from me. Um I started the process of inventing a beach game. Why? Um, great question. I was pretty 30. I had a crisis. 29 to 30 was a crisis year for me. Uh and I was like, what am I doing with my life? And then I was like, I want to have a big field day party for my birthday. Ooh, that's right. And I had this memory of a game we had played at summer camp, and everyone I texted couldn't remember what I was talking about. They're like, What are you talking about? And I googled it, and the internet did not help. And I was like, uh-oh, does this game not exist? Oh, I think I want to make it. And then uh I like started just kind of creating these like Frankenstein. It's basically the rules are still in process of creation because we're changing some things about it, but it's got a softball kickball feel in the style of gameplay. But the bat, we I built the bat, it's out of like a five-gallon water jug with a baseball bat handle, so it's super funny. It like makes a big big sound. It's also like really playable because it's a massive bat with a massive ball. So like the barrier to entry is quite low.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

Um, which is really fun, and it's just been great. We've been playing this, it is our second summer playing it. We've had some tournaments here in the city. Um, people are really excited about here in the city of Chicago, I should say. Um, people seem to be really excited about it. Um, so we got the name Trademarked. That was our next big officially trademarked like a month ago. We have a logo that my friend Alec made, he's an amazing artist. Uh, and so we have like stickers and branding, and we're starting to post online. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited! Way back see. It's really fun. We're trying to get the money to get it to get a design pattern so we can start designing it. I know. People have been talking Shark Tank and maybe Shark Tank.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Shark Tank, dude.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Maybe. I'm a little scared of the sharks. Dude, I mean, yeah, but like dye your hair red and we'll it's a little more picked up and I'll be a star. Yeah, perfect. Damn it. That was a really good callback. You people in the comedy.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Yes. And if and if sharks don't work, we'll just take you over to Canada and do the dragon den. That's that's Is that what they do? Yeah, so it's shark tank in the US and Dragon's Den in Canada.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Oh, I would rather go to Canada. Yeah. I'm going to Canada first. Yeah. Absolutely. Just call me Daenerys. Daenerys? Is that her name? Daenerys? Daenerys Targaryen. Mother of Dragons.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

There you go. There you go.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

Daener Daenerys is Daenerys.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

So yeah. I mean a lot of maples in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

This has been so much fun, Emma. Thank you so much for being on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Thank you for thinking of me, even though I had nothing to say. I had to say nothing to say.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

And I look forward to your next stand-up comedy set.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

Oh god, my first and only and alone in my bedroom. Sure. Sure. Yep. You'll be our only guest.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Oh, Emma Joe. What a great time. That was so much fun. Um, I forgot to mention the last time we hung out, we were having breakfast and I was uh joking about murdering people. I don't know why. Don't ask. Uh and Emma the entire time was trying to tell me that there were cops behind me.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Which made it even funnier, which made me even go further. Um, so yeah, that's the type of relationship Emma and I have.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Uh so fun. Please, if you liked and enjoyed and had fun and want to encourage her to go into stand up, uh, please follow her at E-M underscore J-O underscore B-O. And follow the Batsy, pronounced differently from Yahtzee, uh, at play B-A-T-Z-E-E. And like, subscribe, do all the stuff. Please spread joy and positivity, and don't be like me and talk about murder in front of cops. Okay, bye. Ilse Will Say is an Entrepida Entertainment podcast produced and edited by Jacob Cagle, music by Eric Podcast, and photography by Joel MySonet, and I am your host, Ilse Sacheria Rivera. The views and opinions expressed on Ilse Will Say are entirely those of the host and guests, and do not reflect the views of any employers, sponsors, or innocent bystanders. This podcast is for entertainment purposes only, and I think Sedk here should be taken as professional advice, expert opinion, legal guidance, or a reason to DM a few conspiracy theories. We're here for the laps, y'all. Carry on.