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14th Oct 2025

Tony Bondoc: You don’t need permission to create - Just corn, grit and heart

Ilse sits down with arts programmer, community builder, and fellow South Texan Tony Bondoc, whose resume runs from the Neo-Futurists to the League of Chicago Theaters. They talk about growing up on the Texas border, why “football for theater” (the UIL one-act competitions) shapes unstoppable creatives, and how gratitude and intention fuel his work behind the scenes.

Between debates over corn vs potato, barbecue road-trip spreadsheets, and Big Red nostalgia, Tony opens up about building access and equity into Chicago’s theater ecosystem—and what it means to make something out of nothing. It’s a love letter to arts admin folks everywhere: the quiet heroes keeping the lights on and the curtains rising.

Follow Tony on IG @tonyb890 and support the League of Chicago Theaters to see where he’s bringing the next show to life.

Hosted by Ilse Zacharias Rivera. Say hi / follow along here: @ilsezacharias

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Ilse Zacharias Rivera is an actor, writer, and stand-up comedian who has never had a thought she didn't want to talk about. You may have seen her on The Exorcist (FOX) or Chicago P.D. (NBC), or on stage during her years in Chicago theater. Now based in Los Angeles, she hosts Ilse Will Say so she finally has somewhere to put all of it.

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